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way he says is going to play out. >> this is a waiste of time. >> i was concerned before these polls, and i'm concerned now. >> the whole party needs to be cognizant that this is going to be a major challenge. >> the idf intensifying its offensive with a significant strike on gaza over night. >> we're working to make sure it does not spread to other places. >> there's no humanitarian crisis in gaza. >> if you manage to eliminate all of hamas, what next? good morning, everyone, so glad you are with us. as you can see, there is a lot happening on this monday morning, especially with the former president. >> a big day internationally but a big day in a courtroom in new york city. donald trump is set to take the witness stand with his business empire and reputation on the line. the former president's civil fraud trial is set to resume a
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few hours from now here in new york city. this case strikes at the heart of trump's identity. prosecutors accusing him of kpaj rating billions of dollars and manipulating the value of real estate properties. >> this comes as trump faces 91 felony charges in criminal cases, while also the republican front runner for the white house in 2024. senior legal affairs correspondent, paula reid with us. it's a juxtaposition, to see how well he's doing, and all of the charges against him, and he will take the stand today in just a couple of hours in new york. >> i have covered former president trump's legal problems. coming up on a decade now, and this today, this really is a significant moment. he is being called to be a witness for the prosecution in their case. now, the judge has already found the former president and his codefendants committed fraud, and this is more focused on the penalties and what is at stake here is possible his business's ability to do business in the state of new york.
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but as you alluded to in the intro, what's also at stake is this persona that he has built as a billionaire business tycoon. it strikes to his very identity, but also, you know, what he has tried to sell to voters. it's such a significant moment today. >> ten years of legal issues. four years in the white house. you've covered him so often and so many different venues, and platforms, what do you expect when he takes the stand today? >> i know not to try to guess. the white house, for example, he would come into a press conference, and sometimes he would behave in one way. other times it would be unexpected. he would lash out. he would ramble. this is supposed to be a tightly controlled environment. this is a witness stand in a court of law. he's trying to convince a judge, there's no jury here, that he did not commit fraud. he should be focused. he should be disciplined. this is personal for hicm.
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he's watched his children testify. he's gone after prosecutors. if you look at what happened over the past few weeks, i would expect this could be a little rowdy. it's as much a test for trump to stay disciplined as it is for the judge to keep him in line. >> kcan you talk about what's o the line, there are key rulings, different than most people would think a trial would go. what's been decided and what's on the line? >> this is a civil case. the judge found that the former president and codefendants committed persistent and repeated fraud. now the judge is deciding how much they have to pay in penalties and prosecutors want to take away the license, and the ability of the organization to do business in new york. >> even if that happens, that is likely something that will set off years of appeals. there's what goes on in the courtroom and the larger public opinion. the former president has tried to brand himself as a successful
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businessman, so to have the ability to do business taken away in the state of new york, that would really be a blow to that brand, even though he has tried to spin this as him being a martyr. >> are you our eyes and ears today or will we see this on camera? >> we have a whole team of people inside the court, outside the court. we'll have a whole team. there is a little bit of access. a little glimmer of access in the court. you get a spry, photos i have seen of the former president, lawyers, his sons at the defense table. but there's not a continuous stream. if i may get on my soap box for a moment, it's important to see how this plays out, otherwise the former president walks to the cameras and gives his version. we're going to do the best we can to give upaccurate updates. >> eventually a transcript a little bit later, but in realtime, we'll get updated from our incredible team inside and
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help people understand exactly what's going on. >> busy day, paula reaid, thank you so much. new video of ground and air operations in gaza. the idf says it has struck 450 hamas targets and captured a hamas compound in the last 24 hours. it comes as israel intensifies offensive targeting of hamas's infrastructure aboveground and underground. moments ago, we heard from the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken after leaving turkey, speaking with his turkish counter part, and the mission to rescue hostages. >> i can say that this is an intense focus for us. and we also believe and we're seeing that other countries can play an important role in helping to get hostages back. >> cnn's jeremy diamond is live in israel. jeremy, the last 24 hours are the latest display of israel's
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plan to fight hamas's ongoing operation. what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, phil. israeli forces now saying that they have completed their en encirclement of gaza city and have cut off the northern part of gaza strip to the south. that is aboveground, at least. israeli officials acknowledging that hamas still has tunnelling capabilities to get from the northern part of gaza to the southern part, and that still represents a major challenge. overnight, phil, we watched as there were what the idf described as a significant, extensive strikes on gaza. they carried out strikes on over 450 targets in just the last 24 hours. we were at this position last night watching those bright flashes and loud booms as that intense bombardment continued. we have watched in recent weeks as many strikes have resulted in casualties as israel has targeted densely populated
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neighborhoods in gaza. there are hamas underground facilities below the targetings. we have watched as women and children have been among those killed. telecommunications cut off for gaza much of last night. the telecommunications companies saying that services are beginning to be restored today. >> jeremy, you had extraordinary access inside of gaza. i think people over the last month are wondering why haven't we seen more in gaza. a lot of journalists aren't allowed to get in there. you got in there with the idf. i want to play that for people. >> reporter: we're at a military post inside the gaza strip, one kilometer inside of gaza. gaza city is just this way. as you can hear behind me, there's a lot of ongoing fighting between israeli forces and hamas militants. what they are trying to do right now is flank the hamas positions. that's what battalion commander just told me, and all of this intended to try and cut off gaza city from the southern part of
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the strip as israeli forces also move in from the north. >> and jeremy, we should note that all footage had to be submitted to the idf before we could bring it to air, but cnn agreed to this so people could get a glimpse of what is happening on the ground there. talk to us more about what you experienced and what you saw. >> reporter: yeah, again, it was a limited vantage on the operations of israeli forces inside of gaza but it was an important one because it is the first time that we have been able to get into gaza since the beginning of this war started and to get a sense of how close israeli forces are to gaza city. the contact lines where we were we're told were about 100 meters to the south, 200 meters to the north. you could hear fighting happening all around us. small arms fire as well as short range missiles being fired by israeli forces nearby. and one of the points that the forces there wanted to emphasize is their work to try and establish this humanitarian corridor for civilians to flee from the north to the south.
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there ever been a lot of questions about this, in particular, because in the past, when israeli forces have told civilians to flee on certain routes, those routes have also been struck by israeli air strikes, and just moments ago, i asked a spokesperson for the idf about how they are distinguishing between hamas fighters and civilians who may be using those evacuation routes and he made clear that anywhere we see hamas activity, we will strike. that does raise questions about the ability of civilians to safely use some of those routes. one thing that was clear in this is that the commanders on the ground repeatedly stressed to me amid this opportunity i had this weekend, is they have control of certain areas aboveground. that 6 kilometer stretch, south of gaza industry is where they say that they have effectively cut off north from south. they have posts like this one that i visited all along that 6 kilometer stretch b, but they me clear, there are significant
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underground tunnel facilities that they have yet to discover. there were three underground tunnels that idf forces discovered and destroyed. they know that many more remain. we have already seen in recently days as israeli forces inside of gaza have been ambushed by hamas militants using those tunnels. it was interesting, traveling into the armored personnel carrier, every few minutes, the vehicle would stop, the gunner would look around using visual sites, and also the cameras they have inside this vehicle to make sure there were no hamas fighters emerging from the tunnels to ambush the convoy with the antitank missiles. >> it's extraordinary to see. thank you for all of that reporting. there are bruising new poll numbers that show president biden under water among several key voting blocs, we're going to break down the data. what voters who helped biden defeat trump in 2020, what are they saying now?
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there's a new poll out from the "new york times" and sienna college. the president is trailing donald trump in the five of the six key battle ground states that helped biden win the election in 2020. voters were blunt about why. one voter in pennsylvania telling the times, quote, at least i think trump has his wits about him. closed quote. another voter in nevada says i don't see anything that biden has done to benefit us. biden is losing support with two key voting demographics, black and hispanic voters. senior data reporter, harry enten here with all of it. you know that movie "everything everywhere all at once," is that the name? >> that's close to the name. >> that's what this poll feels like. >> this is bad news all around for the current president of the united states, and let's break it down by the sun belt and then the great lake battleground states and how big of a change are we talking about here. these are the sun belt battle
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ground sites, alabama, georgia, nevada, biden won all of these. look at the 2023 polls among likely voters, the numbers somehow showed earlier were among registered voters. donald trump ahead by 5 in arizona, 5 in georgia. 11 in nevada. you know, i went back and looked at the nevada polls from 2020, you know how many of those polls that joe biden trailed to donald trump in? a great big zero, and now we're already just in 2023, and he trails in the one poll that meets cnn standards for publication already. look at the great lake battleground states, all right. again, biden versus trump. 2020 results. biden won all of them. here we have a tie in michigan, we look in pennsylvania, look at that, another state where donald trump is ahead, wisconsin perhaps the best number for joe biden in this particular polling data set. but overall, if donald trump wins the states he's leading in in these polls, he will, in
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fact, be the president of the united states. >> is there one problem? there's 50 different policies, what's the primary issue for biden. >> i think the primary issue is age. age in two different ways. here's this question, which i think is so important, too old to be an effective president, the vast majority of 70% of likely voters across the six battle ground states say that joe biden is too old. donald trump, only he's only slightly younger than the current president of the united states, 39% say he's too old to be an effective president. this number has been going higher and higher. four years ago, this number was in the 30s. now it's 70%. it's a matter of perception, even though the numbers on age aren't too different, the question for joe biden, how do you solve this particular problem given he's getting older. maybe it's to boost donald trump's numbers, we'll have to wait and see. look at voters, millennials, age
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30 to 44, the 2020 recall vote in this poll, joe biden won these voters in 2020 by 14 points. look at the 2023 poll across these six battle ground states, donald trump is up by a point. there's been a lot of leakage among younger voters. moving towards the former president of the united states and away from the current president of the united states. >> there is a new part of this poll that's crucial, just released by the times this morning. what does it tell us about if trump is convicted and sentenced in a federal election subversion case. >> i think, you know, if you're a republican, you look at prior poll numbers, donald trump well ahead, ahead in the republican primary, ahead over joe biden the general election, of course he has all of these trials he's facing. what happens if trump is convicted and sentenced in federal court for the 2020 trial. look at this. joe biden ahead in nevada, georgia, arizona, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, so we still have a year to go, a lot can change.
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>> ahead by 14 in wisconsin, that's interesting. >> ahead by 14 points in wisconsin. we've got a lot of time to go. a lot of variables we have to work with, folks. >> important point. harry enten, appreciate you. thanks, buddy. striking actors may be inching closer to a deal with the big hollywood studios, the latest on the negotiations next. a ukrainian soldier who lost his leg battling with russia ran the new york marathon yesterday. his inspiring story is having ahead.
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with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. the price is high because the war takes the best of us, but we are not ready to give our freedom to this. [ bleep ] terrorist putin. that's it. that's why we are fighting. that's it. >> that was ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy reaffirming his defiance of vladimir putin. as tensions grow in kyiv over the status of the war. two years in, and the battles are still raging. one ukrainian soldier made the trip to new york city to run in yesterday's marathon. roma roman kashpur is on a mission to
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inspire others. what did you see? >> roman had never been to the united states in his life. his first visit was providing a lot of inspiration. among the tens of thousands of runners at the state of the new york city marathon is this man in the white shirt, giving a thumbs up. a soldier from ukraine who stepped on a russian land mine that exploded. his name is roman kashpur. welcome to new york city. >> thank you. >> reporter: two nights before the marathon, the organization in charge of the race, the new york road runners, honored distinguished participants. roman kashpur was one of them, carrying a ukrainian flag with the emblem of his regiment. he lost his lower right leg as a result of the explosion, which occurred in 2019 during the continuing battles with russia, which ultimately led to the russian invasion and current
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war. roman tells me, right away, i touched my leg to see if the artery was damaged. once i made sure everything was okay, i pulled out a tourniquet and tied it up. then my comrades came out to help me. with the serious injury, this husband and father of two young boys, reported for duty after the russian invasion last year, performing surveillance missions. the 26-year-old has taken a break with the encouragement of his military superiors and with his wife awaiting him at the finish line, roman is running new york along with ukrainian-american friends. his goal, to try to break six hours. he had never done distance running before he was wounded. he trained and participated in the london marathon this april, the marine corps marathon last weekend, and now the biggest marathon in the world. >> roman kashpur says he's active duty military but his primary role is to inspire other ukrainian soldiers who have been wounded like him.
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>> reporter: he declares when you survive what i survived, you have to have a bigger mission. you need to do something with your life. as he runs, he's taking pledges for a ukrainian charity called citizen charity foundation, to raise money for other wounded ukrainian soldiers. rob similcare is the ceo of road runners. >> to have the example of someone like him who has overcome the injuries, inflicted in war is an inspiration. >> reporter: with the ukrainian flag over his head, roman kashpur closes in on the finish line, and breaks six hours, his wife julie at the finish line to greet him. congratulations, roman. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> reporter: can you ask his wife, julia, how she feels about him finishing? >> she's very excited and happy. >> reporter: and very grateful for all of her husband's accomplishments. roman plans to continue running
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and raising money. there are six major marathons in the world, new york, boston, chicago in the united states, outside the united states, you have berlin, london and tokyo. he's run london. he's run new york, and he plans, phil, in march to try to run tokyo. >> it's impressive to run those able bodied with no issues. that is a remarkable story. remarkable man. >> it's really inspiring. >> gary tuchman, great story. thank you so much. >> leave it to gary to warm our hearts on a monday morning. the film and tv actors strike may be close to being over. more than three months after it began. right now, the sag-aftra negotiating committee says it is reviewing the best and final offer from the major studios. in a statement, the union says we are reviewing it and considering our response within the context of the critical issues addressed in our proposals. so the union's demand for an 11% wage increase in the first year of the proposed contract term has been a big roadblock. the studios had agreed to 5%. we'll keep you posted on where this goes.
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donald trump spent his weekend on the campaign trail in florida but in a matter of hours, he will be testifying in a new york courtroom. coming up, we're going to ask his former white house communications director, anthony scaramucci, what we can and should expect today. stay with us.
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former president trump has watched others testify in a civil fraud trial. now it will be his turn. trump will take the stand today in a manhattan courtroom. it is a pivotal day in the new york attorney general's case against him and his business. trump is accused of committing fraud by inflating his assets to get better terms on real estate loans. he's rejected the allegations, insisting he's done nothing wrong and the case is a political witch hunt. there is no jury for trump to play to, just the judge, the judge who has fined trump twice for violating a gag order that prevents him from speaking about the judge's staff. joining us now, former trump white house communications director and the founder of sky bridge capital, anthony scaramucci. the idea that there's been
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reporting that behind the scenes trump is not worried about testifying. he's excited to some degree, his son has said publicly. do you think he's cognizant of the fact that there are actual risks to some degree? >> i do. i think the president, for all of the bluster and so forth, i think he's going to be very well coached on the stand. i think he understands the stakes of perjury. he doesn't want to trip over a wire into another potential felony charge, and so, he's also a stage performer, phil, so he will be ready for this, and he'll be way for subdued. i don't know if you have caught him at any of these indictments or arraignments. i'm not saying he's nervous in those situations but he's definitely way more subdued than the bluster you would see at one of his rallies. there's a lot of facets to mr. trump's personality. i don't think you're going to see the bombastic facet during this testimony. >> he, in his first deposition, there were two in this case, he took the fifth like some 400
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times. in the second deposition, he didn't answer questions directly. he talked about how great his president was, et cetera. what would you expect him to do on the stand today, for of the fifth or -- >> no, i think he's going to answer questions, and he's going to do the securest thing that he does. i don't think he's going to answer the questions directly. he's going to state his innocence. remember, this is a civil trial, and if he perjures himself, it flips to a felony. that's a big deal for him. he has 91 indictments going on at the same time. now, there's bluster inside the campaign related to that as well because you just showed polling. if he gets convicted that's going to be a hammer blow to his potential election. >> on the january 6th -- >> right. on the election fraud. this is a minor case that could end up being a big deal if he
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m mis-testifies, if he says something under oath that is false, that's going to be a lot of trouble for, particularly with a judge that gave him two gag orders. i know the guy pretty well. he'll be subdued, polite and respectful in that court. that's my prediction. >> in finance, in new york, trump's world, his entire being is wrapped up in this. >> it's not just new york. it's trump's world unfortunately. we just happen to be living in it. >> indeed, many days it's felt like that in the last six or seven years. the visceral response that he has had and people around him saying this is so personal for him. this is his business, his name, his everything. you think he'll be able to keep it together or keep it a little bit more profile on the stand despite that? >> yeah, that's my prediction because of the nature of him. i think people don't recognize that when it's crucial, okay,
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that second debate, i'll just take you back to 2016, we're in st. louis. he's under the gun, the "access hollywood" tape has come out. he has to figure out a way to stay in the race. his poll numbers had dropped significantly after the "access hollywood" tape, and he put on a pretty good to very good performance, just being objective about it. so when push comes to shove, he knows how to operate inside the bands of normal human behavior. i predict he'll do that. >> what do you make of the polling that we have gone through from the "new york times"? i mean, the gains that trump is seeing among black voters, young voters under 30, hispanic voters. i wonder if that even surprised you? >> it's a number of different factors, so one of them is president biden, if we're just being brutally honest. many people like those polls suggest feel that the president is too old for that job. the second factor is there's some uncertainty about the economy and the geopolitical
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situation, and there's really only two choices, and usually the incumbent, when things are concerning to people, concerning about their pocket books or geopolitically, the incumbent takes a hint. if it's trump versus biden, joe biden will thump him, and to quote joe biden, he'll beat him like a drum. you can't see that right now because the polling is so early, but the president has disenfranchised a good 2/3 of the country. >> think he'll thump him. >> oh, he'll beat him like a drum, just like he did last time. he only beat him by 40 how in the swings states but i think those margins will be much wider this time. president trump has disenfranchised a large group of people, particularly indemnities. moreover, if you look at the case and the indictment that jack smith has filed, there's a lot of information that's going to come out related to what actually happened, not just in
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the election fraud, but also in the top secret documents. i can tell you one thing about americans, they don't like their top secret documents being shared with people that don't deserve access to the top documents. let's let the cases unfold. it's very very early. president biden is dealing with two wars right now. he's got some shaky numbers on inflation, although the economy is quite vostrong. and i think that's why you're seeing a rise in president trump. if republicans don't put up a different candidate, they will lose that election. >> careful, the biden campaign is going to want to bring you on with your optimistic views. >> trust me, they have no need or want for me. my friend david axle rod, probably not going to bring me on. >> that's a fair assessment. >> he's going to join us in the next hour. >> tell him i say hi. >> good to see you. this new polling has donald
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trump pulling ahead of president biden in the swing states as we just talked about. >> this comes as biden faces pressure from his own party on the handling of the situation in gaza.. one member accusing him of supporting genocide in gaza. that's ahead.
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>> that ad says biden's calls for a cease fire, do not count on her support for 2024. with us is democratic congresswoman from michigan, elissa slotkin. do you agree with congresswoman rashida tlaib that the biden administration is supporting genocide? >> well, look, i mean, i put out a statement yesterday that i feel like as leaders we should be really thoughtful about our language, and make sure that our language is trying to find common ground, especially in a place like michigan where we're feeling this conflict, whether you're arab or muslim or jewish, people are feeling very raw. i think we should be promoting language that tries to find a bit more unity. there was some particular language in that video that really, i think, riled people up, and so i've asked for that to be, you know, kind of taken back. but in general, we have a lot of leaders across the country who are using language that are inflaming the situation.
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>> i believe you're referring to the statement from the river to the sea, your democratic colleague, representative brad schneider circulating a letter calling on representatives to condemn tlaib for using that language. i wonder if you would sign that letter? >> i'm going to look at it. congress, there's a constant stream of letters and bills to sign on to. i read everything. i put out my own statement because i want to speak with my own voice. i think we've got leaders across the country at a lot of levels. i have had this conversation with local leaders, too, that are really sort of like, riding the base as opposed to trying to keep things calm, and, again, that's bubbling up in a very real way. >> you know, you served, for anyone who doesn't know, three tours in iraq. you bring a unique and importance experience to the debate over cease fire, and the debate over what happens next. what then, which is a critical
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question. this is what senator dick durbin of illinois told me last week. >> it is time for a humanitarian pause. it is time for us to count the injured and bring them forward for floating hospitals and other sources that can help them. i think this is the moment we should seize. >> is a cease fire needed now? >> i think it is. >> what do you think, a cease fire now? >> yeah, you know, i think what i've called for is a pause, a strategic pause, and that's because i do believe that the israelis have the right to go after the perpetrators of this attack, the planners, the organizers, the funders, but i think what we're seeing now in gaza is a pretty dire humanitarian situation. and we need to be able to get humanitarian supplies in there. we need to be able to get people out. we need to be able to move , an frankly, i want to use that moment to have a real conversation about hostage
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release. we have lost in some circles, the thread on these hostages. what is the conversation and how do we make sure they aren't hit by, you know, israeli action themselves, so i think that it's an important moment. and as someone who served in onbar province and watched the u.s. go in twice to fallujah, sometimes you have to talk and share some hard lessons with your partners and allies on how we tried to do similar things and it didn't up the way we wanted to end up. >> congressman, to that point, you said you have to make sure you don't, quote, create more terrorists with the way you act. you're nodding. what do you mean? >> i'm nodding because i watched it myself in the american approach to iraq in those early years, right? we tried to go into fallujah to root out al qaeda terrorists, and who could dispute going after al qaeda terrorists. what we found is, a, the combat
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was extremely deadly for u.s. forces, b, it was difficult to tell between militant and civilian. we stopped that operation because it was so deadly on all sides, went back six months later, and i think most people would say that that effort didn't lead to, you know, peaceful coexistence, is what we wanted, we changed strategy in the united states because of battles like that. we went to a counter insurgency strategy that promoted giving people an economy and a life and water and security so that they didn't feel they had to become terrorists. it was a hard lesson that we lost, and i don't want to lose that in this conversation. >> and as much as the president may not want this tied to politics, there are political implications. we heard democratic congresswoman pramila jayapal pointing to it. she's worried about how the white house handling of the israeli-hamas war is going to affect biden in 2024. one palestinian-american in dear born, michigan, who backed biden in 2020 said to cnn, quote, it
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has become almost impossible for me morally to vote for someone who has taken the stance that he's taken in the past couple of weeks. if you couple that with the "new york times" polling that has biden down in michigan against trump by five points, are you worried about him for '24? >> well, look, i mean, we're a year out. obviously everything that's going on right now will have political implications in a bunch of different ways, but i think, you know, the most important thing is that a year out from an election, a set of polls is hard to be an accurate indicator. what i focus on is what biden has done and especially in a place like michigan where i can show you dirt moving in my state, in my district, you know, new factories being built, but there's no doubt about it. i will say that it would be interesting to know what donald trump would have done in this moment, and i have to believe, i do believe, that joe biden is much more concerned, and having much more frank conversations with someone like netanyahu than
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donald trump would ever have, and i think that's the question that will be on order a year from now. >> congresswoman e lissa slotki, thank you very much. >> thank you. and in the middle east, thousands of people have left northern israel as israeli forces and hezbollah continue to exchange fire across the lebanese border. we're going to be live in tel aviv ahead. and these are live pictures of conunis, in gaza, a tent city, housing displaced people from different areas as calls grow for a humanitarian pause as you heard from the congresesswon toto let more e aid into g gaza.
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welcome back. the israel defense force's chief says that the military is ready to shift into offensive mode in the north at any moment. this comes as tensions flair between israel and lebanon, with both countries announcing casualties on countries from strikes across that poerd. now lebanon's foreign ministry
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says it is working to try to prevent this from becoming an all-out war in the north. the fighting has left large parts of northern israel completely abandoned. our jim sciutto has reporting on that. here it is. >> reporter: visit northern israel today and you find ghost towns, evacuations in the wake of the october 7th attacks have left communities such as matula and others empty, except for soldiers deployed against hezbollah. kibbutz miskov-omn situated right on the border are among those abandoned. these two now make their homes in hotels, some 40 miles south in tibirius. >> all the things here were all
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donates. >> reporter: residents here are among some 60,000 israelis who have fled south. one consequence of the october 7th attacks is a temporary migration from northern israel south and from southern israel north. with talk of the israel military creating a buffer zone inside gaza and perhaps later in southern lebanon, the reality today is that those buffer zones exist, but inside israel. >> for evacuees from kibbutz miskov-omn, the pain and fear of october 7th remains raw. paulina still has trouble explaining what happened to her three children. do you think the kids understand what happened? the eldest children, she tells me, understand were fighting for our home. do you talk to them about it? they see and they're aware. this is the reality of israel post-october 7th. a country more aware than ever, perhaps, of the threat on its southern and northern borders. but that awareness leaves open
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the question of when they will go home. ellen and joseph tell us, it's just a matter of time. >> when we're told that we can go back, we'll go back. >> you'll go back? if the government says it's fine, you'll go. >> we'll go. >> sharon and her husband, with 2-year-old and 6-month-old little girls, are far less certain. >> will you feel safe moving back north? >> we think we're not going to stay there, after what happened in gaza and other, we don't have -- we don't trust. >> today we're thinking of moving further south for good, or of leaving israel entirely. >> i won't lie and tell you that we didn't think about moving to another country. >> where would you move if you thought about? >> maybe to canada. >> reporter: there is another possibility that some israelis here suggest, that after the idf finishes its military operations in gaza, continued skirmishes along the border will force the military's attention north, and bring an invasion of southern
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lebanon. >> they say that they'll finish in the south and then they'll start in the north, correct? >> but that prospect has a troubled history. israel's 18-year occupation of southern lebanon from 1982 to 2000 was costly and hezbollah returned and its incursion into southern lebanon again in 2006 was costly as well, and hezbollah returned again. still, what's clear for many here is that after what they witnessed on october 7th, the north will never be the same. >> until now, we lived in the kibbutz and we didn't think about everything that's happened in the other side of the fence and now, after all of this, we finally opened our eyes. >> reporter: open eyes to growing threats from the north and the south. in so many conversations up north, both with civilians, with residents, but also soldiers, it was remarkable to us how many
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said that they want, they feel this country needs a war on the northern front to go into southern lebanon, to at least push the threat from hezbollah further back from the border. with all of the attention now on attempting to keep this war from expanding, it was interesting to us that people up there, they feel it might be necessary, but that, of course, is a dangerous, a difficult prospect of another war, and perhaps a long one. >> yeah, jim, i have to ask, when you talk about the broader efforts to keep the war from expanding, the u.s. military made a very rare announcement that a guided missile submarine had arrived in the middle east. this usually operates in totally secrecy. yesterday it was literally tweeted out or posted on "x." explain the message being sent here. >> i have to say, there are few movements that the u.s. navy keeps quieter than the movements of its guided missile or ballistic missile submarines. these are part of u.s. de deterrence, nuclear deterrence
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for those subs that carry nuclear weapons. this is not. but those movements are kept secret for a reason. this time, they tweeted it out to the world because they wanted the region, they wanted u.s. allies to know, this weapon is here, but they principally want u.s. adversaries to know. this is part of that broader message you've heard from president biden, blinken, from those two u.s. carrier groups that are in the eastern med, just near or off from where i'm standing here, and this submarine, which is to say, if other powers, non-state or state actors get involved, the u.s. will respond. >> that's a fascinating development. jim sciutto, thank you. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. good morning, everyone! in just two hours, donald trump will take the witness stand, and he will testify in a manhattan courtroom. the former president and current republican front-runner will be questioned in this civil fraud trial that could cost him hundreds of millions of dollars and bar him from doing business in new york. >> israel's military says it's carrying out, quote, significant strikes on


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